New Hub Point, AKA - I'm Moving

I've been in the immediate downtown of Portland for 3+ years now.  However there has always been a desire to increase the square footage of the residence and to get a bit more connected in location to transit.

When I lived in the south west, at the Portland Center Apartments they were great.  1000 sq ft., about $1200-1250 a month, Almost every major bus line went by within 2-3 blocks away, the streetcar stopped at two places on Harrison, overall it was the perfect place to be.  Then Portland Center Apartments sold out to become condos.  They converted all three buildings to nice modern places, yet still the same buildings, just cleaned up and fancied up really.  As soon as they did that two of the buildings they had selling as condos and then decided the third would be apartments.  We've checked, but they've increased the prices, in a mere 2 years, over 190% above the rental rates that existed previously.  So with that the apartments, now called Harrison Place Apartments, were written off as a loss to the Cali immigrants.

Were Joleen and I have lived recently, in the north west around 19th and Lovejoy, the connectivity was decent.  The streetcar came very close, in at least one direction, the #77 came by that way too, and just a few blocks up on 21st the #17 went by.  This was convenient, but a complete travesty compared to how connected we were before.  The rent has been less, around $870-$950, but the square footage has been a paltry 650 or so sq ft.  In addition to that the building, as with most in the north west area, was practically falling apart.

Fast forward to today.  Joleen and I are moving to the south east.  I've wanted to live on the east side of the river for some time and am finally going to get the chance.  We'll be bumping our square footage to about 900sq ft, going from one to two bedroom, we'll also have storage, off street parking, and internal washer and dryer.  All of this for about $1225 a month.  The difference in cost will easily be covered by eliminating our storage use and a few other things we'll no longer need since we have extra square footage.

The other truly awesome thing is, we're moving over there, one might think we're going to be even less transit connected.  The contrary is true.  Instead of 2 buses and a streetcar like we had before, we'll now have the #9, #17, #19, #70, #4, #66, and I think another all within 1-3 blocks away (ok, so the #4 is actually 9 blocks away - Walking ETA is about 6-8 minutes so it really isn't a big deal).

I also scoped out a few other things, and in regular Portland tradition, even though I'm connected to so much transit I won't have too many needs for it.  Everything is a mere few blocks away.  A food coop is on the corner directly across the street, a grocery store is further down the street.  There are bars, pubs, restaurants, and easily a dozen other establishments within 2-10 blocks.

Usage, Californication, and Uppity Types

I'll admit it, when I first moved here I thought the Streetcar was the greatest thing since sliced bread.  I was euphoric and refused to live anywhere that wasn't 1-8 minutes from the MAX (walking).  I didn't touch a bus with a ten foot pole.  I was the standard American, I hated buses, but I loved riding on the flanged wheeled smooth riding vehicles.

I spent months commuting out to Hillsboro for a while on the MAX, then cut that back to just Beaverton, and have in the past 2+ years been able to cut it back to no MAX use at all.  I'm 100% downtown mostly.  I do have a slightly longer commute but I just bike it.  I wouldn't want to every try commuting on the MAX again, not because I don't like it, but because just living closer to where one works is the ideal situation.

The other thing that has changed is I've grown used to and accustomed to using buses.  I still have the regular complaints of almost anyone that uses TriMet buses.  The seats are crude and uncomfortable, buses are noisy and very clunky.  Many of the buses (especially the older series) ride like bricks, which is absolutely horrible.  The newer buses are much more A-grade and the seats could be more comfortable.  Sound Transit has the same type and they are plush seats.  Often more comfortable than most car seats.  Overall though, in disregard of all my fussing about buses, I use them a ton now.

With this move occurring, I'll be using buses 100%.  The only time I'll use the streetcar is to go talk with Fred or maybe to get from south waterfront to 23rd.  The MAX I'd only use to either get to the airport or maybe out to Best Buy.  I'm guessing though I'll find that the buses I have connecting to my area though will get me to these types of places anyway.  Don't get me wrong, buses and light rail definitely compliment each other in very positive ways.  Light rail wouldn't have the ridership without feeder lines.  But now that I'm used to the buses, and I don't have that stupid American idea that they're "low class" or whatever, I really am looking forward to it.

At least I know one thing, I won't have to worry about taking a "bus bridge" if the #17 or the #9 has to be re-routed.

I'm done rambling for now, all have a good ride wherever and however you're going were you're going.

Published Saturday, July 19, 2008 9:52 AM by adron
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# re: New Hub Point, AKA - I'm Moving

Welcome to the neighborhood!

Check out Edleveis, at Powell and 13th or so.  It is locally known as "meatland" and has the best european treats and meats.

Hotcake House at Powell and 10th is one of the best 24hour establishments in the region.

The 17 bus tends to be really crowded by the time it gets to this area, and the 19 can be as well.  The 9 is funny because it is frequent service but gets stuck in traffic sometimes so you can often see a really crowded 9 with an almost empty 9 just behind it...

Bike access in this area is really great, and we have tons of things around do go to...

During Rush hour avoid the area west of the Ross Island bridge.  It gets really clogged up.  If you can, use the bus 17, it avoids a lot of the congestion turning on and off of 1st at Arthur.  9 and 19 get stuck all the way from PSU down to the Ross Island Bridge, and it takes forever on bad traffic days.  (Can't wait for the new bike/ped/transit only bridge).
Also, as a side note, don't bother walking or riding bikes over the Ross Island bridge.  It sucks.  Instead just use the Hawthorne.

This part of SE is pretty awesome...
Saturday, July 19, 2008 9:42 PM by ValkRaider

# re: New Hub Point, AKA - I'm Moving

Hey ValkRaider - thx!

Joleen and I are definitely looking forward to moving over that way.  I'm interested to see if my transit opinions change much once I'm over there or if I'll stay generally aligned to my current viewpoints.

During rush hour I intend to be either home already, or chilling at the office or downtown.  I generally just avoid driving or even going about much at all during rush hour.  I leave that for everyone else to do.

As for the Ross Island Bridge, I avoid it unless on bus or in car.  I've looked at that little thing that I suppose is a sidewalk - only seen about 3 people on it ever.  I'd definitely hit up the Hawthorne anyday over the Ross Island.  I might even go for the Sellwood over Ross Island, at least the cars go about 1/2 the speed.

Thx again, maybe I'll wonder into meeting you sometime.
Sunday, July 20, 2008 9:07 PM by Adron B. Hall

# re: New Hub Point, AKA - I'm Moving

Congratulations on your move.

My wife and I lived at 29th and Morrison when we were first married, then on Flavel between 42nd and 45th for several years in the 90s.  I have always thought Southeast PDX is the best part of the city.  It has all the attributes without the pretense.
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:57 PM by Greg Brown

# re: New Hub Point, AKA - I'm Moving

The good attributes without the pretense.  This is exactly why Jo and I decided to head that way.
Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:07 PM by Adron B. Hall
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